November 12th, 2008
Proposition Hate
LA Times: Schwarzenegger tells backers of gay marriage: Don’t give up
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November 12th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
YES! I love this, and it needed to be said. Bigots are quicker to put down homosexuals because they aren’t afraid of them like they are of black people.
November 12th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Nice one. I voted “NO” on Prop 8.
And… “first”!
November 12th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Uh… ok I’ll stop doing that. It’s probably annoying… especially when I get it wrong… :)
November 12th, 2008 at 3:28 pm
Indeed
November 12th, 2008 at 3:31 pm
Excellent!
For all the biggots out there:
1) Most of you are immigrants anyway, as are most ‘Americans’ (Native Americans are the only true Americans).
2) Gay people are not evil- there are more evil straight people thah gay people (murderers, rapists, kiddy fiddlers etc).
3) Black people will kick you ass; I seem to recall lazy americans using slave labour, so you are responcible for all the evil non-whites in your country anyway pretty much; us Brits just sold you them :D
It never ceases to amaze me how dumb people in posistions of power and influcence actually are quite often…
November 12th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Looks like Michael Richards is an IYSS fan!
November 12th, 2008 at 4:18 pm
First of all: If your here ILLEGALLY, make it legal or leave. There is a process, follow it.
Second: Who cares if your gay? Let gay people get married, let them get divorced, let them fight it out in court, I don’t care, it really doesn’t matter.
Third: Affirmative Action SUCKS! If you are black, white, Mexican, African, Indian, Polish, male, female, both or neither, you should be qualified for the job based on your knowledge of it, not because of your background. Anyone who thinks otherwise is just as ignorant as the common racist.
Evil knows no form and knows every form. Evil exists in all races, genders and religions, the only difference is whether or not it’s been sensationalized or brought to attention.
O.K., off the soapbox for now. Good one Bernie, although I didn’t like the portrayal of “The angry white guy” as the main protagonist. I personally know plenty of “Minorities” that feel the same way…although they articulate it in a much more respectable manner!
November 12th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Um, Neil, not to put too fine a point on it:
1) By your definition ‘Native Americans’ are immigrants too (they arrived from Siberia), they have been here longer than the rest of us, but they are just as much immigrants as anyone else. Anyone born here is a true American, in spite of what divisive folks like McCain or Palin may say about Real America.
2) Proportionally speaking, there are as many evil gays as straights if you examine the numbers of convictions. Gays are neither more nor less evil than straights (we are just naturally better dressed and witty, not evil).
3) I seem to recall lazy Brits using slave labor until 1807, so I would avoid throwing stones at the lazy Southerners, we Yankees are responsible for treating black people as humans instead of chattel.
People in power have nothing to do with these actions, it is the moronic mob mentality of the voters who are easily stirred up against easily targeted groups (not to say that you are wrong about how ignorant people in power can be).
November 12th, 2008 at 4:41 pm
As far as gay marriage goes, I think the solution is to get the gov’t out of the marriage business. Marriage is simply a contractual relationship and/or a religious/superstitious bonding. Any two, or more, parties who are able to legally give consent should be able to marry, it should be between them and their lawyers. As far as gov’t benefits for married people, eliminate them right now. As a single man, I’m tired of subsidizing your lifestyle choice.
I think letting millions of felons roam free is a bad idea in any country, the US seems to be the only one to tolerate it and subsidize it.
Affirmative action is discrimination and should be eliminated.
November 12th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Well done, Bernie.
It’s funny because it’s true.
November 12th, 2008 at 6:28 pm
Nice, though I disagree with ILLEGAL immigrants being given the same rights as LEGAL immigrants who pay taxes. I agree with Joe about affirmitive action. It was a good handicap to help abolish racism, now it’s only holding us back. Then again I’m getting tired of black history month when there isn’t a latino history month or an asian history month. Why stop there? Women history month because of their fight for equality. Homosexual, jewish, and Jehovawitness history month because of their persecution during WWII. I mean it’s important to learn about Martin Luther King and equality but a whole month every year seems excessive and in all reality throughout school I hated Feburary because we’d always go back and talk about how terrible white people were for keeping blacks down. It’s a little excessive and I think it’s self defeatism.
November 12th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Awesome, B!
Though… the dude’s mouth in prop 8 is distracting… looks like squirtle.
PS:
Nice one Todd, I totally agree.
I also agree with JustJoe and Scott on the black history month topic. Nailed it, dude.
November 12th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
There is no such thing as race.
We are all the same species.
Bigotry is the bastion of those who feel unempowered. They are scary but also pitiable.
November 12th, 2008 at 8:28 pm
… And apparently they like to wear their hats backwards!
November 12th, 2008 at 11:58 pm
Hey Whiny Crackers, if you want the people who pick your lettuce to pay taxes, be prepared to pay five bucks a head, or shut up…
And Bernie, you’re continuing to RULE!
’nuff said
November 13th, 2008 at 4:44 am
Lee - I think the point is that most people can’t afford to pay $5 for a head of lettuce. If you’re prepared to, you’re obviously much better off than anybody for whom illegal work is a reality. Fact is, your economy thrives on illegal work. Enjoy the fruits of it.
November 13th, 2008 at 6:15 am
Hey Bernie.
You’ve nailed it this time. Look at the number of comments this one strip has generated.
Keep it up.
November 13th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
1) If you believe scientologists, we’re all aliens! Good point though- born in America or two Americans away from home = American.
2) You’re right, George Michael is the son of satan. I suppose what bothers me is the narrow minded minority who think being gay is just plain wrong, and can be cured = Sarah Palin (thank fuck you didnt vote those douche bags into power). Im far more open minded and enlightend, though yes, my dress sense is appauling compared to yours I bet.
3) I agree- us Brits were right bastards in the past, but by comparison, we’re alot better these days (now we just dont like guys from the middle east). I agree also that people should be judged by their skills and intellect, not their skin color or race- something that the Ozzies are having issues with, in regards to employing whites vs Aboriginies (sp).
Live and let live…
November 13th, 2008 at 12:24 pm
This is awesome Bernie. And hey… Did you think that people would be arguing politics because of your comics? (I know I am not innocent of this lol). America is definately an explosive mass of opinions right now. Good on ya, though ^^
November 13th, 2008 at 2:05 pm
@Neuticle and Bard:
I have done absolutely zero research on this, but I find it hard to believe, in this day and age, that some type of machine doesn’t exist to help automate the harvesting of lettuce. I suppose it’s more of a “niche market” than wheat or corn, but seriously, it has to be harvested by hand? Something deep within me wants to call “shenanigans”.
And I’m willing to bet that $5 lettuce won’t bring this country to its knees. Yeah, sure, some people can’t get enough of the stuff. And a damn lot of people are like myself and can easily go a month without consuming it.
November 14th, 2008 at 3:46 am
Scott, there are actually quite a few illegal immigrants who do pay taxes. In particular, I have several friends who are illegal immigrants and own businesses here in NYC, and thus pay more in taxes than many citizens. How can they be illegal and own businesses? Good question. One they would love to know the answer to, as it doesn’t seem fair that they can financially support our government and yet not be allowed legal status. In case you haven’t noticed, citizenship isn’t easily obtained by people from certain parts of the world.
November 14th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
American farmers are not required to pay overtime. Stop and think a minute. How hard do you suppose is it to find legal workers who are willing to work for 6.55 an hour and NOT get time and a half after 40 hours? What would happen to food prices if farms were required to pay overtime?
November 14th, 2008 at 1:01 pm
Personally, I think that they government should stop sticking their noses into marriage.
If two gay people want to get married why not let them? It shouldn’t be up to the gov’t
or the stupid religious people around the world who think it’s a sin to be gay and marry.
It’s a freakin’ free country.
>.<
November 15th, 2008 at 9:04 pm
HR4437: Illegal immigrants /should/ be felons. They’re called “illegal” immigrants for a reason. There are processes set up for immigrating into the United States. It’s not like the government is saying “No immigrants, whatsoever!” Hell, there are no immigration limitations set by the US against its neighboring countries (Canada and Mexico). That means that any number of Canadian and Mexican citizens can immigrate to the US every year (unlike with other countries, which the US /does/ have a limitation on immigrants from, per year). I really don’t see why people from Canada and/or Mexico would want to immigrate illegally, unless they wanted to avoid certain US laws and procedures that all US citizens must follow (for example, paying taxes). I fully support the idea of deporting illegal immigrants. If you want to come to the US, do what all the legals did.
(And really, stop using the argument that “all Americans are illegal immigrants except for Native Americans”. Yes, what the Europeans did to American Indians was atrocious. Yes, what the country known as “The United States of America” was, if not even worse, just as bad. But are the Native Americans tribes currently the reigning members of the federal government? No.)
Proposition 8: If I still lived in California, and had I been of voting age at the time, I’d've definitely voted against Prop. 8. It really pisses me off that some Barack dude gets voted president ‘cuz he talks about change, but then California decides to take a step backwards. GBLT people are still people, and as such should be entitled to the same rights as any other people.
Affirmative Action: I’m against affirmative action. I’m against racism - even the “beneficial” sort that is affirmative action. And it /is/ racism, y’know. Think of all those college scholarships there are for people who just happen to be African/black or Hispanic/Latin. Hell, think of all those schools built specifically by black people for black people. Notice how the people/organizations backing those things never take flak for being racist. If there were a scholarship given only to white people on the basis that they are white, there’d be a media firestorm about that and civil rights protests.
(And, for those of you who would like to accuse me of having this position on this issue due to my being white - you’re idiots. I’m Vietnamese. Both my parents are Vietnamese, and their parents were Vietnamese [I say "were" because all my grandparents are deceased]. Hell, I wasn’t even born in the USA.)
– Griffinhart